II Something Issue # 16

II Something Magazine

Issue # 16
a weekly journal devoted to the Apple II family of computers
Sunday, February 11, 1996 – issue 16 – II.Smthg.960211


  • About…
  • Editor’s Greeting
  • Opinionata – changing online services
  • Updata – Internet Email Subscriptions to II Something
  • Updata – Kansasfest 1996
  • Soft Copy – three new Apple II publications
  • Soft Copy – Klipsch emulator, PMPFax, and John Link
  • Soft Copy – yet another Apple II GS publication
  • CDROM – Job, Adventure, Whatever
  • Webfind of the Week – TCP/IP for the Apple IIgs
  • The Wire Service – Caltech FTP Apple II archive closed!
  • The Wire Service – The GRIND archive moved
  • The Wire Service – Some comp.sys.apple2 messages I found
  • Wish List – better icon editor
  • Coming…



As you know, Apple Computer, Inc. owns all of the Apple II computer copyrights and trademarks, including their names.

II Something is offered as freeware – copyright by Clark Hugh Stiles. Intact distribution of the entire file is acceptable using online services, including BBSes, or via user group DOMs provided there are no commercial sales. Individual articles may be reprinted in user group publications only, provided the following paragraph (except for the opening and closing quotes) is included at the beginning or end of the reprint:

“This article originally appeared in II Something, a weekly journal devoted to the Apple II family of computers, copyright by Clark Hugh Stiles. It has been reprinted by permission. All trademarked names and phrases mentioned belong to their respective owners. Send email to CHStiles@Delphi.Com or C.Stiles3@Genie.Com via the Internet, or newsletters, disks, products for review, gifts, or bribes to Clark Hugh Stiles, Box 46, Comstock Park, MI 49321-0046.”

Editor’s Greeting

Hear that hum? Feel that tactile response? I’m still using my Apple IIgs. This week I look deeper into Spectrum 2.0, fool around on the Internet (hey – I’m doing this for your own good), include some absurdities in the archive, and come up with my third consecutive farfetched Wish List.

This week I must send out a gigantic thank you for her February 1996 issue to Nancy Crawford, editor of the Applebyter newsletter (Box 2092, Davenport IA 52809). I acted like a drunk pirate and derived some of the interesting content of this week’s II Something from her work. I’ve got a decent excuse, though – on Thursday I went to Kenosha Wisconsin for my uncle’s funeral, and returned in the afternoon on Saturday.

This issue contains a lot of news. It’s almost as if winter keeps us all indoors and working on new stuff. There are four new subscriptions available and most of the information we’ll need is in the new intermittent feature “Soft Copy”. One of the reasons there is no market for the Apple II software and hardware anymore is that there is absolutely nowhere to advertise. Unless Apple II owners can actually support SOME sort of real magazine (i.e., not this one), the whole thing will grind to a halt very quickly.

In my case, I won’t buy a new computer. They are just too expensive, especially given the instant obsolescence of all new models. If Apple’s new CEO came along with a big fat apology from Apple Inc to Apple II owners for treating us like marks instead of like customers, then offered us some sort of real value on some Power Macs (not the 68K machines – those were obsolescent before they were manufactured), well, I’m sure that would help Apple Inc, but it wouldn’t help me.

I’m aware of some really great software for the Mac, but Apple doesn’t publish it, sell it, or bundle it with their machines. I’d have to spend $1000 or more to get all the neat toys, and then I’d never or very seldom play with those. Eventually I would try them out, only to discover that they require more RAM, a different model, or just have some other problem.

Besides, I’m saving for a convertible.

I’ve planned to have one by the time I’m 40, and I certainly don’t need another big expense between now and then. “Then” is getting closer all the time.

I see myself in a Sebring JXi or in the Prowler. Too bad I can’t use them when there’s salt on the roads (about four months out of the year).

Also in this issue, Caltech has closed its Apple II FTP archive, but could reopen it if someone would donate a hard drive. The GRIND FTP site has changed its address, which is a relief to know. I can’t seem to download from the Nova Scotia site when I go in direct, but it still works when I skate in through other links. I don’t understand that one.

Opinionata – changing online services

According to the February 1996 Applebyter, GEnie will become the property of Youvelle Renaissance Corporation, which plans to turn it into an Internet connection. “There has been a certain amount of anxiety and panic on the A2 Roundtable.” Oddly enough, I just got email on Delphi that the command line interface is going to remain (the beta of the graphical front end has been pulled).

It is interesting that an Internet provider bought Genie. It sounds as if they know what is going on. Although I have yet to read the file, Genie has already changed its billing structure. As far as I know as of this moment, there will be no change in the status of the A2 Roundtable. Those of you worried about not being able to read II Something can ask for an email version every week. There is no charge from me. Online providers will charge you something, although I doubt that they’ll charge you extra just to receive email. If they try that one, you should consider changing horses.

While out of town this week, I read (either in the Kenosha paper or in USA Today) that the new boss at Prodigy plans to keep that service competitive. According to that article, as recently as 1994 Prodigy was the largest service (!) with 1.4 million members, but today AOL and Compuserve are about three times that size (each), while Prodigy has stagnated. Prodigy’s Internet access is faster because it has more servers, and about half of Prodigy’s resources are located on private Internet sites, but the Internet is not a place where anyone makes any money.

According to the article, the main problem for all online services (presumably also those that are Internet only) is that incoming members and outgoing members are roughly the same number, and the incoming members only come in because of the heavy promotion (tear out cards and ads, disks included with magazines, cold-call mailing, etcetera). When the promotion stops, the membership declines.

I’ve told you my opinion, but here it is again. The “traditional” online services need to market directly to local Internet providers to make their services easier to access and to simplify their own billing. The local providers would compete based on how many services are available, collect a monthly charge from each of their subscribers, but pay a single fee to each online resource provider with which they contract. Companies like Prodigy which have a large number of servers would also be able to charge fees for general Internet access, and would compete with each other at their level. Online services would have to be more interesting, and offer things like access to subscriber home pages, something that is generally the domain of generic Internet services, particularly those on educational institutions’ sites. The cross-promotion would serve both.

Updata – Internet Email Subscriptions to II Something

Last week’s issue didn’t go out last week. I forgot all about it as I struggled with Spectrum 2.0 and have decided to send it before uploading the archive from now on. My first attempt (Saturday, 2/10/96) resulted in pure garbage, so I’ll reupload it using Talk Is Cheap instead of Spectrum. Those of you on the subscription list will receive this week’s and last week’s issues in the same emailing. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Ironically, when I tried to send last week’s issue, I got this message from the Delphi Internet mailer:

The message could not be delivered to:

Addressee: nancy.crawford@slc.davenport.ia.us
Reason: Illegal host/domain name found.

This will become much more ironic and amusing as you read this issue. As for the email glitch, I have no idea what the problem is. This is the address which worked in the past. Rest assured I will get to the bottom of this.

Updata – Kansasfest 1996

This information is from February 1996 Applebyter.

This longstanding annual event will take place July 18-20 at Avila College, Kansas City, Missouri. I don’t know the cost, but it usually runs a couple $100. Send email to timothyK@injersey.com, Cindy.a@genie.com, or ppc.help@genie.com, or Internet your big behind over to http://www.primenet.com/~adams/kfest/ (although when I tried it, it wouldn’t let me in). It says here in the Applebyter that you can also send conventional mail to Kfest96 c/o Kellers, Box 391, Brielle NJ 08730.

Soft Copy – three new Apple II publications

This information is from February 1996 Applebyter.

The AppleWorks Gazette picks up where the AppleWorks Forum leaves off. The first issue is dated Saturday, January 20, 1996, and its 39 pages is distributed on diskette. Contact Chris Serreau (100316.14@gernie.com – yes, gernie.com) or Howard Katz (H.katz@genie.com – yes, Genie.com). I don’t know the subscription prices.

The Apple Blossom is a quarterly newsletter that has been available free of charge on most online services. It will henceforward be available by subscription only $12 US per year in the US and Canada, or $18 US overseas. It will become bimonthly instead of quarterly and will have some new regular columns and features. Publisher Steve Cavanaugh, The Apple Blossom, 1117 Maple St, Wilmington DE 19805 would like you to include not only your name and address, but also information about what kind of computer and peripherals you have and/or use, and pre-feedback about things you’d like to see covered in future issues. TAB has a website as well, and the first four issues are available there as well as online services. You may even find TAB on disks of the month at your local user group.

Juiced GS, a quarterly GS-specific newsletter, will be launched early in 1996. Publisher Max Jones is an experienced newspaper professional who has produced a prototype issue (as an AWGS v1.1 DTP file) available for download on Genie and on the Internet at ftp.cco.caltech.edu/pub/apple2. The introductory rate for a one year subscription will be $12 US in the US and Canada and $18 US overseas. Subscriptions must be postmarked by February 15 (hurry!) to be eligible. After that date, the price will rise to $14 US in the US and Canada, and $20 US overseas. It comes with a money back guarantee (refund for the unmailed issues). Max Jones, Juiced.GS, 2217 Lakeview Dr, Sullivan IN 47882, m.jones145@genie.com, or 74111.1743@compuserve.com.

Soft Copy – Klipsch emulator, PMPFax, and John Link

According to the Applebyter (“so, Clark, how much is the membership anyway?”) Colin Klipsch has a working emulation of a 64K Apple II written in C. The emulation runs on Macs, and more information is available via email by sending to one g.wright12@genie.com. There is a new version (1.0.1) of PMPFax in the works. PMPFax requires a lot of RAM, but is the better of the two fax programs available for the IIgs. Call 510-837-9098 for information. John Link, at one time a prolific Apple II programmer, has placed his Apple II software in the public domain. It is available on BoardWorks BBS, 313-421-9144, sysop Joe Connelly (naugjoec@aol.com). The last is a previously unreleased 8.1 version of SuperPatch. John Link has a web page at http://graphics.wmich.edu and would love to hear from us (john.link@wmich.edu or link@orchid.art.wmich.edu).

Soft Copy – yet another Apple IIGS publication

I got this information off GS Worldview, although its original source is the comp.sys.apple2 newsgroups. I’ll have a bit to say about this quote when it’s over.

[ Begin quote ]

OK – folks,

The word has to be put out.

For more than a year now I have published a GS magazine quarterly. I just wanted to make an end to the talk about dead Apple II line. So I started a BBS with Metal/Futurevision to support the Apple II here in Holland (& Belgium). In my opinion it was not enough of an area to cover because there are many people who don’t have a modem or don’t know how a BBS works. A magazine called the same name as this board was born. Intentionally I wanted something with Apple in the name or something related to it, but somehow it stayed at what it is now.

The Magazine is published quarterly and uses the Dutch language. There was no need to use English for a Dutch publication. However, there’s a disk with self written articles, pictures, scans, sounds, etc. too. I’ve already uploaded number 1 and 2 on the Caltech ftp site and have received a few replies by email about it. People were asking if there was an English publication and if programs could be translated to the English.

At first I didn’t know anything else than to say sorry that there was only a Dutch version now. But I’ve been thinking about it. It doesn’t costs too much to print a magazine; it can be done for about half a dollar per piece. And making an English version isn’t that hard, so why not publish in English? I mailed those persons back telling them that I needed at least 25-30 requests before I would start publishing an English version instead of Dutch.

The initial magazine (issue 6) will cost shipping + printing and will be around 2 or 3 dollars. This is without the disk. Shipping with disk is possible, but will cost a little bit more, probably around 5 or 6 dollars or (maybe) less (depending on the fact if I can send it as a package or not). These prices are outside Europe. In short: I’ll want shipping + disk + print costs out of it. I’m not able to distribute or send it without payment, since don’t have a job or any production and expense money to pay for mailing and distriution cost! I just can’t ‘spoil’ away by mailing it without payments.

What I want to hear from you is:

  • send me feedback (see below) and tell me if you would like to see the next issue published in English. This will be the March ’96 issue. – tell your friends about it, gather their feedbacks and mail them to me as well – please.

I need at least 25-30 feedbacks about this otherwise I will not be able to switch to English. So far I’ve had 4 requests in a short period; 21-26 more to go. Since it costs a bit I’d like to receive the costs in dollars or another currency by mail. Maybe I can have your credit card billed, but I will have to check it out (I think not; it costs alot to do that).

Moreover we have to check out if it works. If this English version fails, I will have to switch back to Dutch, if I succeed it will be possible to pay for a 1-year subscription. Sending money by mail is impractical.

If you happen to have some articles, programs or anything else you want to see published, please send them to me for consideration and inclusions.

Okay, that’s it. There needs to be more thoughts, with your feedback sent to me.

So if you have interesting ideas about paying, mailing, shipping, printing, editing, etc. etc, please let me know. I look forward to receiving your reply, feedback and thoughts on all of this.

My mail address is:

Doede Boomsma (= (Deep) Dark Castle) Wolborgenmate 72 7006 DK Doetinchem The Netherlands

Phone: +31-314-324016 – CET zone BBS : +31-314-365145 – 24h/ day

Email: dboomsma@sci.kun.nl <<>> Fnet : #1@#15

Sincerely, -= Doede Boomsma =- a.k.a. Dark Dude

BTW: I can believe and realize that some people wouldn’t believe me and don’t want to send in any money in advance. It depends on the fact how many people DO want to send in money to have me shipping the magazines. If it leads to mass-not-paying then I will quit at once. I might actually send some magazines before I get money, but as I said it depends. There are a lot of people who can tell you the magazine has existed for more than a year now, so if you want their email addresses, please let me know and I’ll be happy to furnish you with a list.

[ End quote ]

Yes, I too have some qualms about subscribing to a quarterly published by someone who admits in public that his alias is “Dark Dude,” but then I named this lovely work after a cutrate tv show that is now defunct. As a sysop he could publish the whole thing as an online publication and not worry about the money (sounds familiar). You and I have to admit that the price of this thing sounds pretty reasonable.

Dark Dude could continue to publish in Dutch, and just submit a request to Purdue Writing Lab for the needed translations. According to my Internet class instructor, this is accessed at http://owl.trc.purdue.edu, and the translations are done for free by language students. Keep those students busy. Help them hone those skills. Don’t try to freeload though – do your own homework. Hey, stop clearing your throat.

CDROM – Job, Adventure, Whatever

This information comes from the 2/11/96 issue of II Something.

The Cider On A Disk CDROM I purchased from the Rochester Apple C.I.D.E.R. user group will in fact work pretty nearly correctly now. I don’t know if the HFS.FST patch did the trick (I don’t see how) but now when I select “Initialize” for the bogus partition, the error dialog comes up to point out that the volume is write protected, and after I click okay the real partition mounts.

I used some utility or other to make a file containing the entire Apple II contents (but not the Mac fonts directories, that I may do later), but it is not in this week’s archive because the catalog came out to 441K. It loaded into EgoEd, and what I may try next is listing just the filenames and their relationships (paths, indicated by the offset). If I can figure out a better way to build such a file I will SHK it and upload it in the near future.

This week I have included the Read Me from the CDROM masterer and extremely nice guy Kevin Kondo.

Webfind of the Week – TCP/IP for the Apple IIgs

http://slab.isdn.uiuc.edu/~derek/ (I couldn’t get this one to work)



Something that absolutely no one has pointed out is that the Webfind should be an Apple II related site as much as possible, and that is what I’m going to try to do from now on. GS users have needed web capability, and Derek Taubert promises that we will have it – soon. Visit these sites for the exciting update (well, some of it is exciting to all of us, the rest is exciting for propeller heads). Those of you unable to get there (or just lazy, now that I’ve spilled it) can look for most of the details in a file in this archive.

The second URL listed above is the one you should try. The top one wouldn’t connect for me. The bottom one is an FTP site with three files in it. The read me file there said “The main protocol stack for GS/TCP will soon be available here, along with many official and third party network applications.” Derek claims that it is now feasible to write a graphical web browser similar to Netscape. I presume that an accelerator will be needed.

One of the interesting things in the description is the tidbit that an ISA adapter (for IBM clone expansion boards) may be available in the future. We’ve needed that for close to ten years! It figures that one person working without much support was able to put such a thing together.

The Wire Service – Caltech FTP Apple II archive closed!

I got this information off GS Worldview, although its original source is the comp.sys.apple2 newsgroups.

[ Begin quote ]


The ftp.cco.caltech.edu [] Apple II Archive Site has been closed, due to space constraints… However, I plan to revive the archive at some point in the future (possibly near, but probably not) at a different site – keep your eyes on comp.sys.apple2 for details…

Other Apple II FTP Archives:

grind.isca.uiowa.edu (has a caltech mirror)






Daniel M. Zimmerman
7 February 1996

My personal feelings on this turn of events follows. Is there somebody out there that might consider donating storage archive equipment to Caltech, to allow the continual and assured operations and ftp site availability – that we’ve always had in the past ? Surely a 2 to 3 GB storage device would be ample to handle the needs of the ftp site!

Somebody PLEASE, help keep ‘ftp.cco.caltech.edu [] Apple II Archive Site’ opened and active. We need it! Send your email with your contribution suggestions and offerings to Daniel M. Zimmerman.

[ End quote ]

The Wire Service – The GRIND archive moved

I got this information off GS Worldview, although its original source is the comp.sys.apple2 newsgroups.

[ Begin quote ]


grind.isca.uiowa.edu has moved, the new machine is:


The Apple// archive will move to ground.isca.uiowa.edu

Please note: The information above concerning the Grind Apple// archive move was obtained from the file README. It was last modified on Tue. – Feb 6 15:42:27 1996!

Liquefy and Ground – Hummm! Is this an omen for me to make sure my Earthquake Insurance policy is; adequate, current and valid ?

The links to Grind – from all pages on the 3d5d1wsw Web site, are still effective to send you to the Grind – Apple II directory!

[ End quote ]

The Wire Service – Some comp.sys.apple2 messages I found

[ Begin quote ]

[Message 4 of 5 in thread 7 of 208] comp.sys.apple2

Re: applied engineering with apple II?
From: Charles Turley
Date: 5 Feb 1996 23:38:47 GMT (Page 1 of 1)
Responding to: <4elns0$5t5@urvile.msus.edu>

If anybody is looking for AE support, try the following URL.


I just discovered it and it seems to have all the Applied Engineering support you could ask for!

Re: Any hope for GS/TCP?
From: Soenke Behrens
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 06:53:14 GMT (Page 1 of 1)
Responding to: <4eomk6$ml3@brickbat.mindspring.com>
robbie@mindspring.com (Robbie Honerkamp) wrote:
So I'm asking the II community at large.. Has anyone heard anything
about GS/TCP's future?
The news has been for a while that it will be released RSN. See
If you declare love, what identifier scope does it have?
(Unknown C geek)
Re: Any hope for GS/TCP?
From: Matt Ackeret
Date: Fri, 2 Feb 1996 19:53:53 GMT (Page 1 of 1)
Responding to: <4eomk6$ml3@brickbat.mindspring.com>
In article <4eomk6$ml3@brickbat.mindspring.com>,
Robbie Honerkamp wrote:
So I'm asking the II community at large.. Has anyone heard anything about GS/TCP's future?

Well, according to http://www.winternet.com/~taubert/gstcp.html, it’s already here. (And this Web site has been up a while..) Yet we need GNO 2.0.6 for it, which also hasn’t appeared.. So it seems a kind of chicken and egg problem until Jawaid releases GNO 2.0.6. Then Derek can be bugged again! heh

unknown@apple.com Apple II Forever
These opinions are mine, not Apple’s.

[Message 1 of 1 in thread 76 of 208] comp.sys.apple2

GS/TCP update -> PPP and a Web Browser
From: Derek Taubert
Date: 3 Feb 1996 05:41:38 GMT (Page 1 of 2)

Very good news for those interested in TCP/IP access for the Apple IIgs. I have just completed an initial port of CERN’s LineMode Web Browser to the IIgs, and it is functional! The LineMode Browser is a simple text based browser based on CERN’s WWW Library. Using the LineMode browser, information can be retrieved via many protocols such as http, ftp, gopher, and nntp.

My port of the WWW Library (almost 40,000 lines of C code) in cooperation with GS/TCP and GNO will make it feasible for a graphical based web browser to be written for the Apple IIgs. In addition, I have also completed an initial port of the public PPP package to run under GS/TCP. It is still in the testing phase, but I have been able to establish a connection and use GS/TCP utilities such as ftp over the connection.

I apologize that the work I have done is not yet available to the public.
I am very busy finishing up my Master’s degree, and will work on GS/TCP
whenever I get a chance. I am very close!

All of this information and links at:
I urge you to check it out!

Derek Taubert | Ask me about TCP/IP for the Apple
taubert@uiuc.edu | Really, I’m serious!
http://slab.isdn.uiuc.edu/~derek | Or check it out yourself at:
FAX:(217) 359-0010 |

[Message 1 of 1 in thread 81 of 208] comp.sys.apple2

Apple Computer Inc has a new CEO!
From: Bill Scheffler
Date: 3 Feb 1996 08:00:36 GMT (Page 1 of 1)

Splindler is gone!!! Yahoo! I don’t know the name of the new guy, but it said in Apple’s press release that he was an Apple fan since this Apple II days…hmm, anyone wanta try an convince him to make the GS System Software Public Domain…or better yet…have the ethernet and superdrive cards (re)released. Yeah, hopefull thinking again…Oh well, at 2 in the morning, I should be glad that I am! Anyway, lets hope that Apple Computer Inc. can get back on it’s own two feet again and crush the Microsoft…again wishful thinking… 🙂

Bill Scheffler | Apple II Forever, IBM Never!

schefflr@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu |

[Message 1 of 1 in thread 86 of 208] comp.sys.apple2

From: Steven W. Mentzer
Date: 4 Feb 1996 00:02:30 GMT (Page 1 of 2)

I have been trying to get involved with an APPLE IIGS emulator for a while now. I am a programmer with 10 years of VIABLE programming experience on a multitude of platforms (including the Apple II and IIgs). The problem is that the ONLY emulator that was even being developed for the PC has been scrapped. I want to get an emulator running on PC/Intel Architecture by the end of the year. I dont plan on using “clean-room” techniques to reverse engineer the damn ROMS. We will use what is available. Hopefully, by the time the project becomes a real issue, apple will release the ROMS to public domain. If there are ANY programmers that would like to get involved with this project PLEASE contact me at:

ps- If you are an interested programmer, a working knowledge of apple II architecture and programming techniques is a MUST. Working knowledge of C/C++ is a MUST. Some knowledge of 80×86 is a real PLUS.


= Owner,President,CEO and pee-on of: =

ScaryLand! The Unhappiest Place on Earth!
“Please note that this URL is currently under
re-construction and many of the links are
unfinished. Thank You…”

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Wish List – revisions to icon editors

Diced, Ice, and IconEd have unique features. Diced can resize the small icon (as well as the large), and has three different fat pixels modes (up to “Mongo”), but doesn’t support color masks. Ice can copy icons between rez forks and pre-6.0 icon files (but screws up the small icon in the process), can “nudge” the icon as well as resize them (large icon only), has two fat pixel modes, and can edit more than one icon at a time. The IconEd (pre 2.0 versions) can copy mask to icon as well as copy icon to mask (no big deal), and most importantly displays all the icons in a file at the same time.

No one should spend days on end editing icons, but it would be nice to have a single icon editor that can copy CORRECTLY between rez forks and old icon files, resize small as well as large icons, edit more than one at a time, have both large and small icons available while in Fat Pixels (edit mode), display all icons in a file in a single window, list characteristics on rez icons as well as older icons, copy mask to icon (with a safety “are you sure” dialog), as well as regular paint tools.

The lasso, bucket (for fills), and circle, box, and line tools should be available. Also, it would be nice to be able to do a search and replace by color. It would be very very nice to see this editor as a module for Foundation as well as a standalone version.


Writing a host (BBS) in Spectrum’s scripting language, more Internet, even better ideas in the Wish List, etcetera.


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Clark Hugh Stiles

Welcome to II Something. It’s October 1995 and I’m still using an Apple IIgs. What am I missing? The newest machines use CRT screens (preferred, even with laptops except when actually used on the lap), keyboards, mice, and sound to implement an interface with the user. Hard drives are used for primary storage and boot volumes, while CD-ROMs are used to hold larger data files, and floppy and tape drives are used for current data and backup for the hard drives. Modems are used for communication with mainframes. These features have not changed in years; most of them have not changed in decade.